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Curated research library of TV news clips regarding the NSA, its oversight and privacy issues, 2009-2014

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Primary curation & research: Robin Chin, Internet Archive TV News Researcher; using TV News Archive service.

Speakers

Jerrold Nadler
U.S. Representative, D-New York
CSPAN 07/17/2013
Nadler: Statute is of no comfort whatsoever. So to tell me that you go to the FISA court is irrelevant if the FISA court is doing the same abuse of the statute. So can you give me some examples where ongoing bulk collection, I'm not asking about use, has been allowed by virtue of grand jury subpoena without showing the connection between those tangible things and a specific investigation? Chairman: time of the gentleman has expired. James Cole: We'll take that as a question for the record (and depending on the rules of criminal procedure we'll see what we can get back to you.)
Zoe Lofgren
U.S. Representative, D-CA
CSPAN 07/17/2013
Lofgren: And I just recently reviewed a annual report on section 215. Is it true that the or isn't it true that the annual 215 report to the committee is less than a single page and not more than eight sentences? Cole: I think that the 215 annual reports are quite a bit less than the 702 annual reports.
Zoe Lofgren
U.S. Representative, D-CA
CSPAN 07/17/2013
Lofgren: I just asked a question. Is that about the size of your recollection? Cole: I'd have to go back to answer directly. Lofgren: is it true that the report of the number of applications really gives the committee information as to the amount of records impacted? Cole: the number of applications, is there a direct correlation between the number of entities impacted or the number of record?
Zoe Lofgren
U.S. Representative, D-CA
CSPAN 07/17/2013
Cole: Impacted will depend on how many phone numbers have been called. Lofgren: you report the number of applications but it would have no relationship to the number of records acquired? Cole: no, not necessarily. Lofgren: thank you very much.
Zoe Lofgren
U.S. Representative, D-CA
CSPAN 07/17/2013
(Our justice system is set up an adversary away.) Lofgren: And when you only have one party there, you don’t have a counter party making a case before the courts. The expectation that our system will work well as it does in other environments, I think is misplaced. I share with Mr. Sensenbrenner the belief that this will not be able to be sustained. I look forward to our classified briefing. But I think that, very clearly, this program has gone off the tracks, legally and needs to be reined in.
Randy Forbes
U.S. Representative, R-VA
CSPAN 07/17/2013
Forbes: There are other data programs that they do not know about. And this is something that I just don’t think, we realize enough. Because over and over again we hear the administration coming over here and saying this to us – they say well this isn’t illegal and you need to change law. And we need to emphasize, part of this committee, is just because something it not illegal it doesn’t mean that it's not wrong.
Randy Forbes
U.S. Representative, R-VA
CSPAN 07/17/2013
Forbes and Inglis Part 1: Chairman: respond to gentleman from VA comment about Mr. Snowden. We’d be happy to have it. John Inglis: We do not have any evidence that Mr. Snowden abused the program as we have defined it today He may have abused his trust in disclosing classified details of the program. Forbes: in all Due respect, and I said I wasn’t going to yell at you, I’ll try not to yell at you, but that is exactly what the American people are really worried about. That someone’s getting data and using it to disclose it in some other situation and
Randy Forbes
U.S. Representative, R-VA
CSPAN 07/17/2013
Forbes and Inglis Part 2: Forbes: and for the life of me, I do don’t understand how you guys parse that issue that’s there. That’s what is infuriating the American people. They’re understanding that if you collect this amount of data, people can get access to it and it can be use it in ways that can to harm them not just the United States of America. And that’s what's concerning them, I think in a lot of areas and I hope we can get a more elaborate response for the record
John Inglis
NSA Deputy Director
CSPAN 07/17/2013
Inglis and Jackson Part 1: Can I just add, the court is also given permission to not just first hop analysis, meaning what numbers are in contact with that selector, but to then from those numbers, go out two or three hops. In many of the cases that Ms. Douglas referenced earlier, was at the second hop, it was at that second connection that something of interest came that then caused federal Bureau of investigation to apply their resources to essentially uncover or add additional information for terrorist activity. Jackson Lee: once you do the query out of the 300, what is the next steps?
John Inglis
NSA Deputy Director
CSPAN 07/17/2013
Inglis and Jackson Part 2: Inglis: So that query when it is returned, it could be a first hop query or a second hop query, or a third hop query, that information is then reviewed by the National Security Agency analyst and a report would be written and disseminated to federal bureau of investigation if we see something that would be of interest to them. In many cases, when a query is performed nothing of consequence turns up. No connections that are untoward turn up.
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